IDF sniper kills 2 women inside Gaza church, according to Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem

originally posted by: theyBthere
a reply to: angelchemuel

It is easy to judge when we are not living within the horror. You should be grateful it was the IDF searching you and not some other groups that exist. If you lived and operated in a war zone you would be over reactive to at a guess.

EDIT: Sorrry, I had a brainfart and thought this was the thread about hostages and wrote about that.

a reply to: bastion

Yeah there's a lot if questions I have that just don't make sense. 1st claim is it was an IDF sniper how do they know this? Did the sniper send them a memo? Did he write his name on the bullet? Snipers are trained not to be seen so this guy must really suck at his job.

Next they claim IDF attacked using tanks what is this church made of titanium? A tank could level a block in about 15 minutes but this church seems to be explosion proof.

And finally this church also seems to be fireproof as white phosphorus which burns at 1500 degrees and can melt through an engine block and yet the church still stands. My question is how is this even possible?

Then they actually admit that forcs came into the church since it doesn't make sense for it to be IDF that means hamas or some other armed group. On reality none of this story makes sense but yet people will believe it because they want it to be true.

It's obvious that there is an exaggerated accounting here the only question is why?

originally posted by: Topcraft
a reply to: ToneD
Well, if Hamas wants peace why did they attack Israel?

Hamas MAIN OBJECTIVE > to get living-hostages
In trade for those politically jailed
without charge and are denied trial.
(minors, political dissidence, human right defenders)
That was THE PLAN
till israel use the HANNIBAL-BJECTIVE (google it)
. . . they killed their own, lied to expand and invade
(ISRAELI OBJECTIVE)

South Africans during the apartheid
WANTED peace too !
Obviously though, when greed, control, fascism
invades with out mercy, then
things will undoubtedly get ugly.

Just as South Africans,
What alternative is there for Pals ?
zionists will NEVER agree to have Peace-Keepers
to oversee to situation.
Neither will they accept two or
a three state solution. And zionists
will NEVER treat Christians,
Pals, or others as EQUALS.
So what other solution is there ?
Palestinian-Territories is the only home that
Pals have known, they are NOT going anywhere.
Meanwhile, new yorkers, floridians duel citizens
nefariously believe otherwise.
Here's another question,
how many Pals are Global-Bankers?
How many Pals are Global-Media owners ?
How many WMD 's do Pals trade and
constantly expand GLOBALLY ?
Don't play dumb, admit the Controler$
had you brain washed.


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a reply to: theyBthere

Well said

Here’s IDF video of aborted strikes due to civilian presence.

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And here’s an image of the IDF taking an abandoned old lady to the Red Cross.

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From the link.

The following is a text message sent by an IDF soldier, who is currently fighting in Gaza, to his mother:

"Yesterday, we discovered a local elderly woman stranded in the midst of the conflict zone.
She was utterly helpless, abandoned by the Gazans who left her for dead. She recounted that she hadn't seen anyone for seven days and had barely consumed any food or water.
We immediately took her to the Red Cross.

Are the IDF fallible? Yes
Animals like Hamas? I think not.

originally posted by: NorthOS
abandoned by the Gazans who left her for dead.

As the 'abandoned' intensive care patients at hospitals . . .

People hooked up to lung and heart machines, including
new born babies on life support, and babies in incubators
that couldn't be moved, BUT zionists IDF stormed in and
forcibly removed the Doctors and Nurses having
the patients die, Slowely, Alone, No Pain Meds.
Ya but blame the Pals. Sick
www.presstv.ir...

ALL REAL-GOD-FEARING humans
veiw ALL LIFE AS BEING SACRED.
"We Are All One"
Failed big time = 'nwo' zionism = does NOT work.

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a reply to: ToneD

Those are not incubators and watching the video only hooked to hart monitors. Why did they leave these babies the hospital staff forgot they were there? If they were hooked to hart monitors no reason they could not have been moved. Again what we are being told doesn't make sense.

We're you aware the IDF offered incubators to the hospital and made arrangements to give them to the hospital. And offered to help move the patients. If they were left behind I'd say that falls directly on hamas.

www.foxnews.com...

I see at least one woman crammed in
with naked guys and old seniors.
What happened to "never again?"
This is reminiscent of nazi Germany, except zionist
are now the new nazi.

Pic.
cdn.presstv.ir...

originally posted by: dragonridr
the IDF . . . offered to help move the patients.

Now your making things up, Or please provide a link stating
that israel offered to move hospital patients.
fyi hospitals can NOT run without electricity
#2) israel forcibly removed Doctors and Staff so that the
patients could NOT be tended to.
yet you blame the hospital instead of israel ?
Now ain't that rich

Gas-lighting > "israel offered incubators"
that's just israel rubbing salt into a wound

Fyi Pals have all the incubators they need.
but what good are incubators without electricity ?
what good are they ?> when
Staff and Doctors are being physically forced out
and detained by israel ?
THINK

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originally posted by: ToneD
I see at least one woman crammed in
with naked guys and old seniors.
What happened to "never again?"
This is reminiscent of nazi Germany, except zionist
are now the new nazi.

Pic.
cdn.presstv.ir...

originally posted by: dragonridr
the IDF . . . offered to help move the patients.

Now your making things up, Or please provide a link stating
that israel offered to move hospital patients.
fyi hospitals can NOT run without electricity
#2) israel forcibly removed Doctors and Staff so that the
patients could NOT be tended to.
yet you blame the hospital instead of israel ?
Now ain't that rich

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You really have to stop using press TV as your source. That was a picture released by the IDF where Hamas fighters were surrendering to IDF soldiers. No women were there

Now I had a link there was a phone conversation released by the IDF with the offer . Just follow the link. I see your problem you can't tell when your being lied to because you can't even bother to follow links.

"israel offered to
move hospital patients"

To insist hospitals to be evacuated is a war crime period.
MORE GAS LIGHTING

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a reply to: ToneD

No, this was the war crime.

Hospital director Ahmed al-Kahlout admits Hamas used Kamal Adwan hospital as a military base, and registered Hamas members as medical staff.

twitter.com...

Hospitals were operational facilities for Hamas.

a reply to: NorthOS

Apathy winning yet? Everyone wants to forget history and repeat those goosesteps.



Like asking, "Who attacked Israel the day they declared independence after randomly attacking them for years under mandate rule?"

originally posted by: ToneD
Hamas MAIN OBJECTIVE > to get living-hostages
In trade for those politically jailed

That's obviously wrong.
Hamas slaughtered 1200 people.
They mass raped and mutilated genitalia.
Obviously their main objective was not to 'get living hostages'.
They only got 240 hostages, but they killed 1200.
And they started a war that has killed unknown thousands.

originally posted by: ToneD
www.presstv.ir...

PRESS TV is a Iranian state owned and operated propaganda outlet.
It is not journalism. It is not the press. It is not reliable at all.

originally posted by: ToneD
To insist hospitals to be evacuated is a war crime period.

Gaza Hospital Boss Admits He’s a Hamas Commander, Used Medical Facility as Terror Base

You don't want IDF to go into hospitals? Then tell Hamas and the hospital workers not to use them as terror bases. There were patients in them and they suffered ... BECAUSE OF HAMAS. If Hamas wouldn't use them and work out of them, then IDF wouldn't have to go into them. Any so called 'war crime' in regard to hospitals in Gaza is fully on HAMAS and the Palestinians .. not Israel.

Btw
IF israel could treat it's Christians, non-jewish, Pals . . . etc
as Canada, Australia . . . does, it would not have come down to this.
The racist two tiered system of israel will NEVER WORK in any
modern moral society.
Holding political prisoners without charge or trial in itself
is contrary to international LAW and is NOT a just society.
Face it, this has gone on and on, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT WORK.
Pals are NOT going to leave their only home that they know,
anymore than forcing Moroccans to move to Saudi Arabia . . .
anymore than forcing Jamaicans to move to Africa . . .
anymore than forcing Ukrainians to become Russian citizens.
The problem is with israel, which is unlikely to cherish ALL life
but to continue it's bigoted ways.
THE ONLY SOLUTION IS TO BRING IN PEACE KEEPERS,
AND TO HAVE SEPARATE STATES.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
their main objective was not to 'get living hostages'.
They only got 240 hostages, but they killed 1200.

Google "Hannibal Directive" here's a start (although wiki is biased)
en.wikipedia.org...
IF netanyahu cared, he would not be killing their own.
Even the families are pi$$ed at thier own government.

FACTS
1) netanyahu had been informed but let it happen
2)Hamas wanted a prisoner exchange
3)israeli objective has always been control, expansion
4)Hamas did NOT bomb Schools, Churches, Hospitals
5)Pals objection has always been fighting for Human Rights
Why does not israel just take it's issues to international court,
and get ALL the facts OUT IN THE OPEN?
. . .we all KNOW WHY


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originally posted by: ToneD
IF israel could treat it's Christians, non-jewish, Pals . . . etc
as Canada, Australia . . . does, it would not have come down to this.

That's not true. Israel treats it's Christians and Muslims just fine.
They hold political office and have positions in the judiciary.
They own land and intermingle safely.
Israel treats LGBTQ equally as well.
The same can't be said of Gaza ... not even remotely.

a reply to: ToneD

LOL, “political prisoners”.

Keep calm and carry on Ham Assing.

a reply to: Degradation33



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